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Investigation uses hidden cameras -- and Aunt Alice

Posted: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:21 AM by Dateline Editor
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By Chris Hansen, Dateline Correspondent

We’d been hearing complaints from senior citizens and government regulators across the country about the tactics some insurance salesmen are using to sell certain investments to retired folks. I’m a long ways off from retiring, but it’s an important subject to me because my mom’s close to that age and my aunts and uncles are already there. Given the turbulence we’ve seen on Wall Street, it seems like everyone is re-evaluating or repositioning their investments and would like to have their money in a safe place. And that’s what a lot of salesmen are pitching these days.

The investments are called equity-indexed annuities. They may be appropriate for some, but not for everyone. Why are so many people trying to sell these to retired folks? Simple: that’s where the money is. Seniors control more than $15 trillion in today’s economy and for the salesmen, these annuities pay healthy commissions.

Dateline decided to use hidden cameras to find out what salesmen were really saying or not saying to seniors when peddling these investments. We attended some of those “free lunch” seminars put on for potential clients, classes where salesman are taught the tricks of the trade. We wired some houses in communities where a lot of retired people live, so we could see the one-on-one pitch play out in real time.

What we found in many cases was remarkable. Some salesmen are being trained to scare the elderly into buying certain investments. In our hidden camera homes, we saw that some agents were not disclosing how long the senior’s money would be tied up, in some cases longer than the investor would live. We also saw some salesman not disclosing details about surrender penalties that would have to be paid if the senior had an emergency and had to access their money.

In order to carry out this investigation, though, we needed the help of some senior citizens who would invite salesmen over to hear the pitches. In Alabama, we met a 77-year-old semi-retired lawyer named Leon who fit the bill.

But we also needed help in Arizona. I had just seen my aunt Alice at a funeral in Chicago. She had come up from Arizona, where she lives part of the year. We had a nice chat and I expressed my condolences for her husband, my uncle Charlie, who had also recently passed away.

A few weeks later I wondered if Alice might be the perfect choice to help us in our investigation. After consulting my mom, I reached out for Alice who ultimately agreed to be a part of our story. She was perfect because she was exactly the type of person some salesmen seek: retired, widowed and in possession of a retirement nest egg.

She asked the right questions and as you’ll see in our story she presents herself pretty darn well on camera. Now if I can only get the rest of my family working on my stories.

Click here for the full story and video of 'Tricks of the Trade.'

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WOW I cant wait .The hype over these things far outwieghs the amount of sales.The equity index products account for about 7% of all annuity sales .I hope you present the morningstar ibbotson study showing most retirees should have 1/2 of their savings in annuities . I run an investment advisory and there are very few reasons to put 100% of anyone's money-in anything, especially the stock market.
Chris -great blog .I agree with the market as it is
I also want a safe place for my money. my annuities at least guarantee I get 100% of my money back.Thats better than my GE stock that just went down 20% ! But I can see that there are good and bad annuities -just like good and bad stocks
Hi Chris,
I am a Registered Investment Advisor in Wisconsin I believe that if the insurance companies want to use the "Index" then the product should be regulated by the SEC. This is my feeling and the feeling of at least four Broker Dealers that I know of,they will not allow their Registered reps to sell Index Annuities and feel that there will be tighter regulaion imposed on them. I just ran into a client that had an agent sell her on an index annuity, she didn't even know what the product was that she bought and had no clue how it worked or the lengthy surrender charges associated with the product. The agent brought his manager with him to tag team her, pressure selling. SHAME ON THEM!!!!
One or two bad apples can taint the whole barrel! But wise folk will simply sort out the truth... The truth is, that the media usually slants the so called "real truth" through selective editing. I offer retirement and tax planning to seniors and boomers preparing to retire. Never had a complaint- None! The Fixed Indexed Annuities offer the safest product for retirement funds! Yes- expose the wily rascals, but don't distort or omit the truth about good people  that employ honest sales tools for great products.
I am concerned that Dateline will only present what the headline indicates and not the advantages of some of these savings programs that have proven to be a valuable safe money alternative to many seniors. If sold responsibly, these annuities can provide seniors with peace of mind and security. I only hope this will be conveyed in some way at a later date.
I,too, work in the retirement field.  I applaud NBC for uncovering the unethical sales practices of insurance salesmen.  I know the industry will suffer unfairly as a result of your program.  I haven't seen it yet, but, would not telling both sides of the story be somewhat related to what your trying to expose?  Oh, I forgot, you are selling something also.  Maybe you should take your own advice.  There are great annuity sales people all around the country. Getting a  professional view from them wouldn't sell quite so much, would it?
All industries have good and bad people - construction, medical, media, financial, engineering (I think you get the point) - so, why pick on one? Consumers must understand what they are purchasing from whom they are purchasing. There is so much information in the world that no one should ever get scammed - except for the ignorant.
Hi Chris,

I am an insurace agent in CA that began in the business over 10 years ago working for a couple national wholesaling organizations before creating one and have been waiting for this series to air almost a year when I first heard about a couple agents getting 'caught'.  I have worked with thousands of insurance agents in over 40 states and now work with the public and focus my business working with and for seniors and retirees in my area.  Unlike the agents on your show, my loyalties are completely for the benefit of the client and I search to find the best situation for each person I meet, even if it's not with me.  It doesn't take long in this business to make a decision to work for one of two things; either the benefit of your clients or for personal gain.  Sadly, most agents choose the later.

I applaud you for doing this series.  There is a huge problem in this industry at the level you have targeted, the personal producer.  However, there is a much larger issue happening here.  Not only are insurance companies creating non-client friendly products and rewarding commission greedy agents for the sale of those products, but serious problems also lie with each state's Department of Inusrance (DOI).  If the DOI in each state would actually stand up, be firm and protect the clients in their state, I believe over 60% of the products would be pulled off the shelf, or removed from distribution and sale.  How is it that two of the most client friendly products in the industry took almost one year to be approved in Massachussettes, but the MA Department of Insurance allows almost every Alliance, American Equity and American Investors product that is created avaliable for sale?  These are some of the companies that have historically been notorious for creating some of the most non-client friendly products in the industry.

Then again, maybe the DOI will state that the products are too complex and complicated to understand.  What is their main responsibility then?  Maybe most of the blame remains with the insurance companies because they obviously understand the complexity and profit margin, yet still create these products?  

Throughout this series, I hope you point out that there are two key steps in the process you are exposing and that there are actually good products and good producers.  The first step is how the agent treats and educates the client, which I believe is the main point of the show.  Second, the quality of the actual product being sold.  Both steps must be appropriate and ethical for each specific client's  situation in order for there to be a good sale.  Unfortuately, most agents rely too much on their wholesaler for the second step and the wholesaler is incentivized by the insurance company to present a product that might not actually be the 'best' for that client.

I applaud your efforts and can not wait for the 'cleansing' of this industry to begin!
Hi Chris,

Please do some investigating on the companies that make and sell the products to the sales people.   That's who they should go after.  Too much is left up to the people selling them.  The incentive is larger commissions.

Please go into what licensing is needed for selling the annuities.  They only need an insurance license.

I could go on and on, but I won't.
Please make sure you mention that there are a lot of honest guys out there. I am an Investment Advisor REpresentative and I also use Fixed Annuities and
Fixed Indexed Annuities. I do not call them Equity Indexed annuities because they are fixed indexed annuities.  I also make sure my clients do not put to much into an Indexed annuity. And you know that many seniors don't need to much access to their money because some of them will spend their money to quickly if the access is to easy.
I have seen many seniors that have done this.  One more thing to mention is many of the lawsuits that Attorney generals have filed have been over incorrect information. I know of one in CA that mentioned the maturity date which is a date that usually means nothing. Just be sure you think about telling both times.
I think this has happened to me - I did not realize it till your story- but started to investigate what I owned and found out that this 'financial advisor who everyone ( my friend ) said was the best - took me to the bank. He put me in this annuity that ties up my funds for 10 years - I did not know this - till after it was done - Hold on - not only did he coarse me to do everything NOW - I now earn 2.4 percent on a little less that ******* than I make 3 % on *******. He forgot to mention this - I just signed because he was so wonderful (just ask my friends) ---- DUMB DUMB -- Oh  -- did I forget to mention that I will lose ****** if I take it early - less than the 10 years!

You really hit in on the button - they sell themselves as trustworthy. The are really just crooks -- I am going to move my  money as I can -

I wish there was a way to hold them accountable for their actions  -- but I am sure there is not. NO matter what some of will lose and they go to the bank --

Wish - I was smarter -- easy to trust than lose!!!!
I work in the investment industry, specifically the Retirement market for a MAJOR bank/investment firm.  I advise the Financial Salespeople at our retail branches about how to create investment and income plans for their clients.  I work with annuities, mutual funds, bonds, etc.  I want to reiterate what I've seen on this message board.  ALL investments contain fees or risks of some sort.  ALL investments need to be suitable for each client that buys them.

My problem with this broadcast is that Chris and his staff of "journalists" are feeding the culture of fear that exists in our news media today.  To intentionally focus on the practices of some unethical and despicable salespeople is inflamatory and not doing anyone any good.

Why not do a fair report about the income problem that the majority of people face in retirement right now?  We haven't saved enough as a country to live 25 or 30 years in retirement.  Healthcare is outrageously and disgustlingly expensive in some cases.  Social Security and Mediare will be gone in 20 years at this rate.  I would just love to see an individual interviewed that offered an opinion other than the one Joe Borg had to offer which was "I wouldn't recommend these to anyone".  That type of quote taken out of context is dangerous and could potentially hurt as many people as it might help.

PLEASE - let's get back to serious journalism instead of scare tactics.  This broadcast makes me question the validity of your investigations now....
Chris,

I am watching Dateline as I write this message. You should also investigate "tricks of the trades" in the mortgage banking industry. I work for a MAJOR bank on the mortgage side. The same tricks are happening with mortgages. Trainging sessions on how to sell certain loan programs that are profitable to the bank. How to sell these programs that are not in the best interest of the borrower, but the best interest of the bank.  
I'm sorry but I watched the program and you are acusing people of dong things they weren't doing. Each one said that there would be a penalty. No one lied about that. Everyone should read a contract before signing, and do their homework. No one should invest their entire savings in one product that has a penalty for early withdrawal. It's still useful for a PORTION of a seniors assets. You left out all info about death benefits-which are more likely to be utilized by the beneficiaries of these annuities. This was the most uncomfortable show to watch because you were exposing nothing and it seemed slanted. I am not an agent. I don't work in the insurance industry.I'm just a person who uses common sense and clearly heard each agent say that there were penalties for early withdrawal. As to the "fake" articles, well look in the newspaper at most retail ads. They make false and ridiculous claims. The consumer must be careful and look at what they are considering buying.
  You should have more substance before you do damage to a product or industry. I was offended by the way you tried to make something out of nothing.
Chris, I wish I would have thought to contact you sooner.  I live in Illinois.  Back in about 1995 we invested foolishly in viatical settlements.  We took all of our IRA CD's and transfered them into these viaticals because we were sold by a crooked insurance salesman.  We even put our daughters money in one of these which was suppose to pay for her college education.  It was suppose to come due in 1997, we still don't have her money and luckily she graduated with honors and was awarded scholarships and is now an accountant. We recommended our friends to this salesman and they invested too.  We've all lost our money. In the last couple years we have become aware of several other people in our area who were taken by the same guy.  One man has died and his family is still trying to recover the loss but don't think they will get anything. We would all be grateful if this scam could be brought out in the open.
Chris,

When you asked Bob (the agent) what the penalty for early withdrawl was, it was the first time he had been asked that question. While his marketing practices were less than honorable, he did nothing wrong in comparing the penalty for withdrawl on the indexed annuity to a CD. They both have penalties for early withdrawl. In fact, he does tell the senior that he should not put the money in the annuity if he intends to withdrawl the money soon. Remember, there is a trade off... with an annuity, the owner recieves TAX DEFERRED growth, allowing that money to receive interest growth. That's not so with a CD.
I am very happy that Dateline is showing abuses by deceptive salespeople in the financial industry.  As a financial advisor, I do not like seeing unscrupulous individuals giving the rest of us bad names. I would like to add that most of us are honest and do what is in our clients' best interests.  I wish that Dateline had at some point added that annuities are appropriate under certain circumstances and had not used sensationalist journalism to make us all look like crooks.
I just watched your Dateline segment and I understand how indexed annuities are bad for the elderly. You don't address whether they are good investment vehicles for younger people. Are they a good place to put part of your money if you have the ability to wait the ten or so years required? I have never used a blog before, does the answer get emailed directly to me?
Dear Chris: Thank you for the wonderful report Sunday April 13. I am an insurance agent for 35 yrs. I have never or will ever sell an indexed annuity. These annuities do not serve anyone well exect the agent who probably cannot pass a securities license.  I have been say for years to my clients stay away from this.  Good work on making them tell the truth... finally..
Chris,
Great story, thanks for getting a message out that many state regulators have been trying to get out for several years.  I am curious as to why the National Association of Insurance Commissioners was not discussed in your story, did I miss that part?  Also, I heard nothing from  the federal securities regulators, why not?

Thanks again, I hope you follow up!
I applaud you for most of the investigations including "to catch a predator" and such, but this one seems like you are twisting the situation around to make these guys out to be something they are not.  They almost all admit if you want to withdraw the money early, you shouldn't put it in these type of investments.  That should be the end of it.  If your guy was more direct, he could have easily had a direct answer about the penalties.  The only poor practice is when the flat out lie...which I only saw in the training class and with the magazine article that the guy didn't write...that is wrong and misleading.  The rest is in the fine print...if nobody reads it, why does the law require it? Maybe if people in general were smarter, this wouldn't be an issue.  I personally knew quite a lot about my mortgage when I signed off on it.  I wasn't dumb enough to get an ARM loan, so why can't other people do their research? Same situation isn't it? Furthermore I'm not about to invite a perfect stranger in my house to offer him my life savings.  Just not smart for anyone at any age.
Don't get me wrong, I'm against lying and intentionally misleading, but I saw virtually none of that on your show tonight.
Chris
Fabulous program on annuities! The same thing happenend to my 80 yr old mother and Lorie Taylor with Channel 8 news ran an investigation on my mom. My sister and I have been fighting this since 2004. My mother lost thousands and most of all she had to pay the irs 17,000 in 2006 this is not counting the penalties she had to pay. I am still working with the Ohio Insurance Commission regarding this "deferred annuity". Also they tied up my mothers IRA she was already drawing on. My mother was diagnosed with Alzheimers and passed away the day this aired on Channel 8. I would love to talk to you and send you the website so you can view the investigation report that channel 8 ran on November 26, 2007.  You can do a search under Lorie Taylor's segments and look for "deferred annuities" and that was mine.
Hopefully your segment will help others from falling prey to these ground feeders.  It broke my heart to see my mother so terrified because she lost all her money from her house and IRA.
Regards,
Mary O from Ohio
Dear Chris: Thank you for the wonderful report Sunday April 13. I am an insurance agent for 35 yrs. I have never or will ever sell an indexed annuity. These annuities do not serve anyone well exect the agent who probably cannot pass a securities license.  I have been say for years to my clients stay away from this.  Good work on making them tell the truth... finally..
Chris - I love this undercover operation on Annuities. My mother who lived on a small fixed income put some of her small savings in an annuity with Met-Life. Her agent was Mike Ulasky (whom she trusted fully) but me and my siblings thought there wasn't something quite right. She has conjested heart failure and was getting dementicia (not sure of the spelling). In May 2005 she ended up in the hospital and her doctor told my sister and i that she only had 3 months to live.  I took her in my home and cared for her.  In July of 2005 mom wanted to take her money out of the annunity and give us kids 10,000 each (there were 3 children and she started out with 16,000 and there were now 33,000 in there) since that was all she had she didn't want us having to pay money on getting the little bit she had.  Her insurance agent met us here at my home and told us she could not draw any out of that but that he could pay her monthly checks, to which we believed.  He told us he would clean out her folder and throw away what was needed to be cleaned out.  We again trusted him and he took all the original paperwork.  She died in 2006, now my sister - brother and i recieve  a check every month for $105. for the next 10 years.  There is nothing we can do about it because we have no paperwork and no proof.  It is very heartbreaking that they can do that to the old people and have no heart.  Would he have gotten paid to change that policy?
Dear Chris Hansen   There is also one thing that I would elaborate on after viewing tonights story on the Index Funds,  and that  is although FDIC CD's are a much better and safer investment,  be aware that with the latest premature withdrawal penalties,  if you withdraw your principle too soon,  you can still get back less than your original investment,  as the penalties can be taken from the principle if there is not  enough interest earned or credited to cover them.
I just watched the special on Dateline NBC about preditory Insurance agents, and Seniors. While I dont always appreciate the media and the way they report things Chris Hanson, and NBC, should be given a medal! As a financial professional I see numerous cases where Seniors have been taken advantage of.  Its typical to see a case where an 80 year old has several hundred thousand dollars in an Indexed Annuity and has 15 years left of a surrendor charge.  They need the money, but cant get to it. There is more about the annuities I wish Dateline would've disclosed, such as participation rates, bonus encentives, and the commission these "professionals" make each time they sell these "cant lose investments"... Thank you Dateline for bringing light to an issue that I have been fighting against for a long time now.  Continue the good work!  For all who read this... Please, Please be careful when it comes to purchasing an annuity of any type.  While they do serve a good purpose for the RIGHT individual, they not the answer to everything... Often times there are other less expensive alternatives, that will meet your needs, and make us ALL happy!  
The real investigation should be on the individual state's departments of insurance.  They are the ones who approve each and every product.  They are the ones who approve these 16 - 20 yr surrenders and high commissions.  They are also the ones who "slap an agent on the hand" when they mislead somebody, but go after the company for hundreds of thousands of dollars, and still let the agent who was misleading continue to sell. The problem runs deaper than you may think...  It's all about money and it isn't just the insurance companies looking to make a profit!
I just watched your show re index annuties. I am not connected with the insurance industry, but I am retired. Your show focused entirely on early withdrawal provisions, without regard to the advantages of index annuities.  It smacks of a show where you decide what you want to show and then try to prove it. You have taken a 60 minute mentality to a new low in television journalism.  
I am a senior with the very same annuity through Allianz you just aired on Dateline. It is the only retirement fund we have and the salesman that talked us into it was recommended by our local credit union. We could greatly use the funds invested in it to pay off our debt so we could retire but would loose a great deal. My husband is 70 years old with many major medical problems but is forced to work as am I as we can not live off of our social security.
Dateline not giving both sides of the story is just as unethical as the agents out there trying to scam seniors.Lets do a Dateline about brokerage firms that lose seniors' money and now they have to go back to work just to survive. In many cases, Fixed Index Annuities are more liquid than the market, even with the surrender periods. Of course, if these ambulance- chasing lawyers didn't have deep pockets to go after, they wouldn't have anything to do.
I began as a career insurance agent in 11/82, and have over the years have become licensed as a series 7, 63, 65, 24, & 51 in the securities industry.  I also completed the coursework to have the ChFC designation.  I appreciated Chris' show on deceptive methods for selling annuities, and can assure the public, that the office that I oversee does not tolerate any of these practices; however, I have always been bothered by state insurance departments--or in the case of Minnesota, the Commerce Department--regarding one issue:  Why do they approve products that should "generally" not be allowed to be sold to the public?  Commissions rise with longer surrender penalties.  That's simple fact.  Why tempt agents by approving these products for sale in their state?  Most products sold by agents with integrity have 3-10 year surrender penalties that trend down from 6%-10%.  It appears to me that Attorney General Lori Swanson gets to be the "bad guy" in this issue because the Commerce Commission did a less than adequate job in its approval process.
Hi Chris,
Great job on shedding some light on Equity Indexed Annuities. As a financial advisor I am disgusted by many of the insurance industry practices and unethical behavior of many fellow advisors. How can these EIA products exist? Simple, they are fixed annuities which means they are not filed with either the SEC or NASD. They are merely regulated at the state level. Unfortunately in your show you didn't have time to uncover the real deception with these products. The workings of these products can be so complex (e.g. monthly growth caps) that it is vitually impossible for the investor to "win" with these products. Show me a EIA with NO caps and a guaranteed spread (cost) of 1.5% or less and I'll buy it. Unfortunately I don't see this product ever evolving. For investors "safe" money they are better off with a CD.
I am 56 and about to retire. I was approached by a salesman representing "ING." I set up a 403(b)fixed annuity and money from my check was contributed to it monthly.I am to receive a larger sum of money as my retirement date gets closer. The salesman has called and I told him that I am not going to put all of it into this annuity. He seemed to get upset. I really not sure about this. Any tips?
Dear Chris,
Great piece on the annuities.  Would you pleae take this investigation one step further?  Many of these insurance agents have turned from selling whole life policies to these so-called savings ventures.  In any form, the consumer usually loses.  The insurance industry is a billion dollar business, and many agents are unwilling to do the right thing rather than give up those lucrative commissions.  
I was watching your show on dateline nbc. I was shock to fine out their was someone who is concern about the annuity retirement money. I was  putting my 62.0000 in ALLIANCE LIFE. WHEN I FOUND OUT MY MONY WAS GOING TO BE TIDE UP FOR 5YEARS I TRYED TO GET OUT OF IT. I WROTE LETTERS TO THEM. THEY WROTE BACK, SAYING IF I WANTED TO GET MY MONEY OUT I WOULD HAVE TO PAY A PENITALY OF 10,000.00. I SAID NEVER MINE I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE THEM MY MONEY I WORK FOR ALL THOSE YEARS.I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW I CAN GET SOME OF MY MONEY BACK .I FELL I WAS MISLED. ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH MY RETIREMENT MONEY. CAN YOU POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DERECTION PLEASE. I'M 62 YEARS OLD.
Mr. Hanson,
I am VERY disappointed with what I just finished wathching tonight! The message was to stay clear about "indexed annuities". STAY AWAY. You should of made it clear that an indexed annuity may not be appropiate for certain individuals, but may for others.  Being a successful manager for a national insurance company (we don't market any annuities), I can tell you that if you know your customer (client) and what their financial goals are (what the money is really intended for) an annuity with a 100 year surrender charge may be appropiate!  Some of us really do tell the truth, the 'whole' truth and get called back when another CD may mature.  You never mentioned any of the benfits about annuities and as in every business, there will always be questionable charactors.  But to make it look like all annuity sales people are deceptive is deceptive on your's and NBC's part.  Stick with the sexual predators!  You can't make a mistake there.
I am so happy you did this piece on insurance agents and annuities.  This is only the tip of the iceberg.  Agents in Florida who worked for Met Life cheated my parents out of $25,000 from 'churning' their accounts.  For 2 years I kept telling my mom something wasn't right.  She would say, 'They're nice boys, their Christians!'  They would wait until my dad went down for a nap, then they would pressure her to call up and move her annuitiy money around.  They would end up paying huge taxes and the agents got their commissions!  You have no idea how that broke my heart.  My father died never knowing if we got their money back or not.  I had to sign a statement saying that I would never harass the agent that did this to my parents!  Can you believe this?  Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, REMEMBER THEM!  
I thank you for my parents and all of the elderly that have been taken advantage of.
Here's one for you -- I was hit by these crooks twice in 5 years. First time, I was bald,in a turban while in chemotherapy for metastatic cancer - Two causually ganged up on me in an Olde office, and told me "Unit Investment Trusts" are the way to go "you won't lose any principle ... and " Second time, 4 years later, a bloke "representing" my Credit Union (I thought!) actually had to pick me up at a son's home (in a high-end neighborhood in Dallas) because by then I was legally blind and certainly could not read, nor see well enough to drive), and took me out "for coffee." His company was "X-something" in the San Diego CA area - to help me recover from the first losses ...he ended up putting what I had left in many, minute (small amounts) in Fidelity Funds (but not telling me), all front-end load (I had told him upfront "No-Load Funds" only); and I could never reach that man again after signing the papers. Two years later, I contacted every company I could think of and "found" the wasted funds with Fidelity--even Fidelity was shocked! I had nothing left after the crook got his "take."

I went to the Texas Securities Board, in person, and all they did was nod in agreement over my losses and told me, "He's high on our radar..." This is outright fraud. When someone's critically ill, or has a serious impediment to understanding, or the broker does not communicate with the client - it's illegal.

Fiduciary law requires absolute trust; full-disclosure the second money is mentioned. Philanthropy consultants must adher to fiduciary law, and so should anyone selling, brokering, presenting, moving, transferring, or buying funds -- aka "money."

I have nothing left, and still paying medical costs on my SS income without any retirement savings. President Bush is nuts - he backs these practices by "corporate America" and it's cruel, inhumane, illegal, and blatanly unethical.
Dear Mr. Wallace, I find it Ironic that you are accusing agents of missleading clients and telling only one side of the annuity story, since that is exactly what you just did with this report. You left out that annuities offer guarenteed income for life just like corporate pensions that are getting fewer and far between. People are living longer and longer and social security, according to our own government, will need major reforms in able to survive. There are good and bad annuities just like there are good and bad anything else. By the way, would your aunt be better off in an annuity that protects her money or in your employers stock (GE) that just took a bath?
After reviewing your program tonight would MetLife be one of the companies under investigation.  Thank you.
Great program.  I appreciate your investigative reporting.  These are the kinds of sales tactics that the public urgently needs to be aware of.
I am a gray-haired little lady who is an easy mark for predators and smooth-talking salesmen.  
I encourage you investigate unfair tactics in other industries as well - the public has a right to know!
I have been in the finaancial services industry for  25 years and I have never sold an annuity to anyone. Annuities are a middleman product and the consumer loses in all cases no matter the type of annuity sold. The industry is at fault for a product with a contract that is so complicated that no one understands it. People who have an education in personal finance would never own an annuity. My advise is never sign a finanacial contract unless you have someone you trust there to represent you that doesn't work for a financial instutution.
I was shocked to find out I too have one of these annunities that I purchased in 2003. I am so upset that my money is "unreachable" until 2017. How do I file a complaint against this company and try to recoup my loss? Should I contact the Florida State Attorney Generals office? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Please advise.
I bought an annunity which i am stuck for 15 yrs. they tell you all of the positives you get a bonas of  a lg. some they tell you to thust them they dont tell you honestly how much of a big fat check they get for tying up your money. namely    North American Company.
at a time in this country when investments are in a downturn I think you ought to show the good side of people who do a great and scrupulous job of helping people save money.  In this country people only save 3% of their paychecks while in china people save 30%.  Almost every person I know has an idea that there will be a surrender charge for early withdrawal of money in an annuity.  Please.......
Just watched the show. It was eyeopening. I take the word of my advisor and dont really question him. I will from now on and will start doing more home work starting tomorrow.
To Chris Hansen at Dateline
While I am the first to admit there are skunks in the insurance business.  After having been in the insurance industry for18 years - I have seen it all and met many disreputable agents who will say and do anything for the sale.
I applaud you for enlightening people to the unethical people in the insurance industry.  They have always and will always be there. BUT -I take exception to your ONE SIDED expose on Equity Indexed Annuities and the agents who sell them.  While showing the scum of our industry, you failed to talk about the hones agents who do thing ethically; who disclose the terms of the contracts; and who make sure the product fits the client.  
All you  have done is to scare all seniors and to damage the honest sales people trying to make a living.  I am all for getting the fox out of the henhouse, but not at the expense of killing all of the hens to do it.

Chris, I appreciate what Dateline is trying to accomplish but let's not loose sight of what the real problem is.  The real problem is not with the Insurance Industry/Financial Services Industry it lies within individuals wanting to put themselves before others for greed.  I personally have been in the industry for over 15 years and am proud to say I base my recomendations ALWAYS on what's best for the consumer!  Forget what I get paid, I can go to bed at night with my family knowing that my recomendations wouldn't have been any different if I were dealing with my Mother or Grandmother.  If one thing could have been different from tonight's telecast it would have been to let the Insurance Companies have a voice in the process, remember most agents shown tonight are independently licensed agents; there is greed in every industry (unfortunately). Fixed Index Annuities themselves are not bad products (do not call them investments) but they are not right for every client.  Lets agree that full disclosure and suitability are "real issues" facing seniors today, and together we can make this a better place.  I expect that NAFA will have a response to your telecast within the next 24 hours.

Regards,

Mr. K
 
I just saw the program and want to know where to turn in an abuser of the annunity sales. I still do not have the paper work for an annunity that I singed up for on 1/10/08. I still do not have the policy in my hand. He tells me I have a 30 day right to refuse. How can I do that when I do not have the product?
Hello,
 Merril Lynch sold me an annuity about
3 years ago.  I had no idea what an annuity was at the
time.  There was some mention of surrender charges.
I had no problem with those charges.  The time period
that was first mentioned to me was 6 years.  Later I
found out through very persistant questioning that I
would not be able to get at my money until 59 1/2
according to Merril Lynch.  I'm currently 46 years old.  Dateline probably has just the tip of the iceberg with brokerages selling these financial entities. Not mentioning the penalties      
and time periods was probably common practice.  Do some more checking.  We are talking mainstreem    
brokerages.  Some people who got hooked are
embarrrassed to say.  I've got an
inkling that this type of selling was common practice
in the past 5-6 years.  Brokeages certainly were not
making the great commissions they made back in the 90's.  Where would they make up for those commissions?
Annuities!


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